Well, our trainers at Snowmass spent several training days on this topic with, as far as I know, no consensus on the outcome.
LOL, that sounds familiar, sadly.
Well, our trainers at Snowmass spent several training days on this topic with, as far as I know, no consensus on the outcome.
Yes and Yes. Tight line skiing on the side of the trail in the loose snow with one turn followed by a hardpack turn required to back to the softer snow. Float, carve, float, carve where my feet need to tucked under me to carve but not to float were I go back neutral and ride the ski.Do you stay on your feet, or do you keep your feet under you?
Do all those Angels on the heads of pins wear helmets or not?
Jim, you better turn the skis there!
From Josh:
"yeah no, until we have an electric car with a speed controller on each wheel that would be impossible."
Acura has a new model with two electric motors in the front and one in the back. The car is generally powered by 377 hp gas engine. The electric motor adds power and also controls each wheel - slowing and accelerating as needed.
Better read about it since what I just said may be flawed.
Haha, thanks. No, this was simply to add fuel to the fire.^^^
Are you sure you didn't mean to post that in the falling thread? https://www.pugski.com/threads/falling-lets-see-some-of-your-best-and-worst-falls.12050/
And welcome to PugSki!
Haha, thanks. No, this was simply to add fuel to the fire.
So many things to think about! I mean, while tomahawking are you turning the skis or are they turning you? And, after a double ejection who is turning the ski as it carves down the fall-line?
A little bit ago, I threw this in. It's an article about a theory on how the brain works. The salient point is, per the theory,
“The cortex knows the location of everything,” ... "cortical columns did not just capture sensations. They captured the location of those sensations. They captured the world in three dimensions rather than two. Everything was seen in relation to what was around it."
So, that got me thinking. The question in the OP was posed in the context of instruction and learning. In that context, it seems to me that we need to focus on "the skis turn you", rather than the other way around, because it's a critical part of skiing, the ski's ability to turn, that puts what we know on its head.
A little sidebar. Ever alight an escalator or moving walkway that is not working, and do so making every effort to do it seemlessly, as if were just another set of stairs or just a continuation of the floor, respectively, without feeling a disequilibrium? For me, it's been impossible. My brain (cortex) fully expects that I am alighting a moving object; my entire body acts as I will. Skiing is like that, but the other way. We expect our feet and skis to be planted to the ground; but, no, they move.
So, quite difficult to overcome the disconnect between what we know and what happens. Then, there is the added expectation that "we turn", not the skis. I suggest that on-hill discussion of physics, parallel, perpendicular, though interesting, may not be much help at all. What is more relevant is what instructors can do to associate inputs with outputs, while at the same time orient the student to a new way of looking at the hill. As to the latter, I focus on training the student to see the ever changing fall line. But to what end? I use the fall line as the reference by which to identify the "floor" (I use dance floor), not the slope before us. As to the former, I don't know how to most effectively help a student to associate inputs with the unexpected outputs at a very basic level, the brain or cortex level. One might say, get out there and practice. But, seems to me there must be a better way, one that is designed for instructing and learning. I "feel" that conveying "the skis turn you" has to be a critical element.
Ah, now I get it. Check out the perfect turns around 4:16. The skis are thinking, "this is great without that big skier bogging us down!"
Exactly! I guess I should have made that more clear. The crash is just an appetizer for the best part around 4:14.
From an instruction perspective, This topic has two audiences. For the new to skiing audience we can develop a straight forward progression but for the skier with miles under their belt, breaking bad habits is highly problematic.