One Ski Suggestions for Wasatch: Enforcer 110 or Atris

[bremmick]

Looking for some feedback and insight on the decision at hand.

Looking for a one ski quiver solution, board as well, so not looking for multiple pairs at this time.

Want something fun, floaty, easy turning, forgiving, etc... I am 6'4 and about 200 lbs.

Thoughts?

Looking at Nordica Enforcer 110 in 185 or Black Crows Atris in 189. Will be mounted with Salomon Warden 13 bindings with QST Pro 120 boot.

Thanks!

 

[Philpug]

As full discloser I have not skied the Black Crows. With that said, knowing the shape of these two skis, the Nordica will be a bit easier turning with having more shape at the extremities and the Black Crowes having more taper plus the Enforcer is shorter. Both will float well too. I also think the Nordica will be a bit more forgiving.

 

[bremmick]

Thanks Phil. The Atris does seem to be ski that isn't as widely experienced. The guys at Blister seem to like it quite well. I'm just wondering if it is slightly more stable then the Enforcer 110.

Another interesting option is the J Ski Metal. Anyone have any time on this?

 

[Philpug]

Thanks Phil. The Atris does seem to be ski that isn't as widely experienced. The guys at Blister seem to like it quite well. I'm just wondering if it is slightly more stable then the Enforcer 110.

Another interesting option is the J Ski Metal. Anyone have any time on this?

I have the Metal here in our test fleet. It is a lighter more playful jibby ski. If you are looking for stability, the Enforcer.

 

[epicentre]

Thanks Phil. The Atris does seem to be ski that isn't as widely experienced. The guys at Blister seem to like it quite well. I'm just wondering if it is slightly more stable then the Enforcer 110.

Another interesting option is the J Ski Metal. Anyone have any time on this?

One of my local shops are selling three models of Black Crowes this season, including the Atris. These folks do not bring in a new manufacturer unless they are sold on them themselves and know they will sell. That said, they are also selling the Enforcer 110 right next to them

 

[Lorenzzo]

I may go for the Enforcer 110-s. The 100-s are so good the 110-s get the benefit of my doubt. Also, those I know who've been on them have nice things to say. That said I've tried deciding on powder skis before but confusion has put me into indecision.

 

[Mike Thomas]

If you want slightly more stability than the Enforcer 110, go Enforcer Pro. It isn't as burly as it may sound, it is really fun.

 

[fatbob]

A 110 isn't a powder ski for a 200lb guy. Can we stop this right here? It'll work just fine in powder of course but is equivalent to a 100mm ski for a lighter guy etc.

 

[DanoT]

A 110 isn't a powder ski for a 200lb guy. Can we stop this right here? It'll work just fine in powder of course but is equivalent to a 100mm ski for a lighter guy etc.

^^^ It depends on one's ability and personal preference. I am a "wide tracker" who is in his comfort zone in powder and varies between feet together and apart but I don't feel comfortable in real wide skis. Besides floaty boaty is for kids, I'd rather slow down, sink in, and crank as many turns as possible. Oh and I am 2015 lbs. and my powder ski is a Kastle BMX 108 and normally I ski the light dry snow of the B.C. Interior.

Edit: Also, the OP wants a one ski quiver, so that would be an all mountain ski not a powder ski. I would also expect that on big powder days, out comes the snowboard and when it hasn't snowed in a week, out comes the skis.

 

[peterm]

The OP's description of "fun, floaty, easy turning, forgiving, etc" perfectly describes what I'd like in a fatter ski to pair with my Enforcer 93s. I'm thinking the Atomic Backland 109 might be a good option. I imagine it's not as burly as the Enforcer 110.

 

[fatbob]

I know the OP wants a OSQ and for what he has said about himself and where he skis he is IMO in exactly the right ball park. I'd be perfectly happy with the 108 BMX myself in the same circumstance. I just think it confuses matters if people then come in and say ... if you're looking for a pow ski and suggesting similar skis. It's a bit like saying...if you're looking for a SL ski and then talking about 80mm pistencarven skis it ignores the specialism of the term.

Not suggesting that anyone who doesn't live in an AK heli "needs" a pure pow ski as I'm defining it but it sure is hella fun if you do get a resort day when you can make the most if one.

 

[AmyPJ]

^^^ It depends on one's ability and personal preference. I am a "wide tracker" who is in his comfort zone in powder and varies between feet together and apart but I don't feel comfortable in real wide skis. Besides floaty boaty is for kids, I'd rather slow down, sink in, and crank as many turns as possible. Oh and I am 2015 lbs. and my powder ski is a Kastle BMX 108 and normally I ski the light dry snow of the B.C. Interior.

Edit: Also, the OP wants a one ski quiver, so that would be an all mountain ski not a powder ski. I would also expect that on big powder days, out comes the snowboard and when it hasn't snowed in a week, out comes the skis.

Wow! You sure you don't just strap a toboggan to each foot?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist)

 

[DanoT]

Wow! You sure you don't just strap a toboggan to each foot?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist)

I guess the benefit of a short time limit for editing one's posts is that it does provide an oppourtunity for some fun remarks by others.

Before shaped skis and before fat skis where available in ski shops, fat skis were being used by heli ski ops. In the 80s I was able to buy a used pair of Fat Boys when Mike Weglie Heli Skiing were replacing their fleet. I nicknamed them "The Cafeteria Trays" ("The Toboggans" would also have worked) and sold them before the season ended.

 

[tromano]

Blister compares these two in their deep dive http://blistergearreview.com/featured/deep-dive-2017-2018-nordica-enforcer-110

 

[bremmick]

I have the Metal here in our test fleet. It is a lighter more playful jibby ski. If you are looking for stability, the Enforcer.

When you say more playful and stability. How playful is the enforcer in comparison? Stability wise, is the Metal stop just not at the mach end of the spectrum? Also, wanting a ski I don't have to be on it and pushing hard all the time.....is that the enforcer? Sounds like that might be what the Atris is.

 

[QmaartenQ]

Blister compares these two in their deep dive http://blistergearreview.com/featured/deep-dive-2017-2018-nordica-enforcer-110

Its a pitty you have to be a member to read this though.

 

[PisteOff]

My local guy who is an Austrian and long time outfitter and supporter of local racing is also heavily pushing Black Crowes the past two seasons. He also pushes the Fischer Curve heavily and Fischer boots.

 

[Tony S]

Crows. Plain old Crows.