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We call him Burnaby Joe. :) Yeah, I heard that Roy really took an interest in coaching and tried to learn the ropes. But..I think he's a prima donna..no one person is bigger than the team..despite his compete level. As I've said in the past, "Here's the org chart..where are you and where am I??"

I do think he's a pretty good coach, and will some day be a very good coach. Which isn't totally normal for someone who was an elite player. He was really patient and good with the players, but did start to get frustrated by the end of the season. I think the "Why can't you just WIN? Like I did?" might have come out a little bit. He called out the top players, and got on Duchene's back about a little fist pump after he scored his 30th goal -- it happened in a blowout (a losing blowout), and Duchene didn't really make a big deal of it, but it got on Roy's nerves and he said something in the post-game, which was really unusual because he was always very defensive about the players to the media.
 
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I do think he's a pretty good coach, and will some day be a very good coach. Which isn't totally normal for someone who was an elite player. He was really patient and good with the players, but did start to get frustrated by the end of the season. I think the "Why can't you just WIN? Like I did?" might have come out a little bit. He called out the top players, and got on Duchene's back about a little fist pump after he scored his 30th goal -- it happened in a blowout (a losing blowout), and Duchene didn't really make a big deal of it, but it got on Roy's nerves and he said something in the post-game, which was really unusual because he was always very defensive about the players to the media.

Yeah, that's about what I would imagine it to be. You need the skills but you also need the temperament and mentality of a good hockey coach.
 

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That's an interesting read. I suppose we'll see if they're heading in the right direction. Seems like Joe may have to answer some questions one day..
 
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Less than a week from our pre-season opener against the Wings... :golfclap:

The summer is SO much better when you've got the CUP :D
 

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Not watching world cup. Oh right USA got beat last night...

Saw a great tweet from Phil Kessel last night.."So I'm at home watching my TV with my dog. Feel like I should be doing something important.." Haha! I guess they'll start the second-guessing now. I don't think the US team was that bad. I just feel like Team Canada is at the peak right now..like in Sochi..just too many weapons.
 

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News conference tomorrow AM at the Quinte Sports and Wellness Centre.....worst kept secret locally.....AHL's Senators coming our way 2017-18. They won't be the Bulls, but at least it's good hockey locally!
 

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News conference tomorrow AM at the Quinte Sports and Wellness Centre.....worst kept secret locally.....AHL's Senators coming our way 2017-18. They won't be the Bulls, but at least it's good hockey locally!

Sucked huge when they went to Hamilton. I just don't understand the business side sometimes..
 

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Mayor and council understand that big things don't happen without the city putting in their money too. Major renovations to the ice surface....it's Olympic size, more seats, better change rooms etc.....As I said worse kept secret, it was just getting it finalized. Even made Ron McLean FB page.
 
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Sucked huge when they went to Hamilton. I just don't understand the business side sometimes..

I've got a Hamilton Bulldogs sweater!
As the former AHL Habs minor league team AND the fact that Bulldogs are awesome, what's not to like!
what caused the split from Canadien's underling?

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It's just money and convenience at that level. Unfortunately those teams move around alot. Hard for the fans. Belleville bulls were there a long time. But politics and money moved them. Fortunately a lot of others have stayed.
 
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MVP puts Sidney Crosby in rare company
World Cup honor equals Bobby Orr, Wayne Gretzky
by Dan Rosen @drosennhl / NHL.com Senior Writer
10:01 AM

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TORONTO -- Bobby Orr was the first to complete the trifecta in 1976. Wayne Gretzky matched him 11 years later. Sidney Crosby joined their exclusive club Thursday.

Crosby equaled the Hall of Famers who preceded him, arguably the two best to ever play the game, by being named most valuable player of the World Cup of Hockey 2016 following Team Canada's 2-1 come-from-behind win against Team Europe at Air Canada Centre.

Orr, Gretzky and Crosby are the three players in history to win the Hart Trophy, the Conn Smythe Trophy, and MVP at the Canada Cup or World Cup of Hockey.

The Canada Cup was held five times from 1976-91 before it became the World Cup of Hockey in 1996. It has been held three times since.

"I don't think much about that company, I just think about serial winners, and that's what he is, he just wins," Team Canada coach Mike Babcock said of Crosby. "Sid's unbelievable. He's great to be around. I've been real lucky, I've been around him now three times and we win every time."

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Crosby, who won gold with Babcock at the past two Olympics, has never been better in a best-on-best international tournament than he was in the World Cup.

He finished with a tournament-best 10 points on three goals and seven assists. Team Canada scored 24 goals, which means Crosby was involved in 41.7 percent of its scoring.

Crosby had three assists in the two-game final against Team Europe. He had two in a 3-1 win in the Game 1 and one on Patrice Bergeron's game-tying goal with 2:53 left Thursday.

Brad Marchand and Bergeron, Crosby's linemates, finished second and third in scoring. Marchand had eight points, including a tournament-best five goals, capped by his shorthanded winner with 43.1 seconds left Thursday. Bergeron had seven points, including four goals.

"[Crosby] does it right," Babcock said. "He works hard. He doesn't complain. If he gets 15 minutes (of ice time), he doesn't say a word. If he gets 20 minutes, he doesn't say a word. If he misses three shifts in a row, he doesn't say a word. If the penalty kill is out there and he's not playing -- whatever he's gotta do -- and then in the biggest moments he turns it up.

"When you look at guys like him and [Bergeron] and obviously [Jonathan Toews], in the biggest moments, they're better. They can't help themselves. They're addicted to winning and they just make it happen."

Crosby made it happen in a big way Thursday. He turned it up.

Team Canada was pressing for the tying goal, but room was sparse and Team Europe wasn't sitting back. Crosby appeared to elevate his game early in the third period, and Marchand and Bergeron followed. Eventually, the rest of Team Canada caught on.

It outshot Team Europe 13-6 in the third period after getting outshot 27-21 through two periods.

"They took over in the third," Babcock said of Crosby's line. "[They] absolutely dominated the third, of course, and got the rink tilted a little bit so we were able to come back and get a win."

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Crosby has made it happen as captain on three occasions since 2014.

Canada went 6-0 winning gold at the 2014 Sochi Olympics, where Crosby was its captain for the first time. It went 10-0 and won gold with Crosby as captain at the 2015 IIHF World Championship. Team Canada was 6-0 at the World Cup.

Crosby helped those teams by producing 24 points on eight goals and 16 assists in 21 games.

"It's pretty special. It's not easy to do," he said. "A lot of us were together there in Russia, and the guys who weren't, everyone just kind of jelled right away. I think everyone understands playing for Team Canada, people will do whatever it takes to win. To see the different challenges you have to overcome to win, the big ice in Russia was the big challenge; here we were facing different challenges, playing a really stingy defensive team that seemed to capitalize on every mistake. They were tough to play against and they tested us big time."

Team Canada passed. Crosby helped will it and skill it there, giving more credence to what he's done lately and how that will go a long way toward defining who he is as a player and why he has likely cemented his eventual place in the Hockey Hall of Fame at 29 years old.

In the past 17 months, he has won the World Championship, the Stanley Cup and Conn Smythe Trophy, and the World Cup and World Cup MVP to join Orr and Gretzky in their exclusive club.

Take it back to 31 months ago and you can add Crosby's second Olympic gold medal. Think about that and it makes it easy to forget the two-month blip he had at the start of last NHL season, when he was struggling to score and the Pittsburgh Penguins were struggling to win.

Crosby hasn't forgotten, though. The adversity makes the championships and MVP awards even sweeter.

"I don't have to look too far to think about how tough it was a year ago starting off the season, so I think I appreciate this a lot," Crosby said. "It's not easy. Everyone wants to be playing for Team Canada. There's a lot of expectations. We play here. We understand that. But it's an unbelievable atmosphere to play here at home. To be a hockey player playing with Team Canada, to be with this group of guys, it's been a lot of fun. So, to be able to win it is special for a lot of reasons. It's been a great month."
 

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Oh yes. They are so pretty. There is even a guy with a Sakic 88 jersey, but I don't know if it's original or not.
A lot of people would like to see Marcel Aubut suffer a terrible fate for the Nordiques and the COC harassment events. I'm surprised can still walk down the street in Quebec city..
 

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So I get in from my game, no goals, 1 assist, -2...flip on the game and see...Auston Matthews has scored a hat-trick..then got another while I'm watching. So final score, Ottawa 5, Matthews 4. Huh. Didn't see that coming. As Kris Letang tweeted, "Wow..welcome to our beer league Auston." :eek:
 

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