Good is subjective. Yes high level skiers do fall. Just not as often.
When I fall, I go big!
Good is subjective. Yes high level skiers do fall. Just not as often.
haha I here ya. I feel falling is part of skiing. Imo its also related to pushing yourself to be good. And it doesn't have to be at speed. There are even times Ive even fallen on fairly flat terrain while practicing technical movements or at times simply daydreaming and just not paying much attention. Honestly I think I fall more on flatter terrain than I do on steeper. I don't recall the last time a I fell charging down a steep. But yet I can recall many times I fallen on lessor terrain especially as I try to perfect technique which I then take with me to the steeper terrain.When I fall, I go big!
That may be true to a point, but at some point you are going to just want to go out and enjoy being on the mountain. Maybe we should not think about every movement as making us better skiers but think about the over all skiing experience. Does it really matter if one turn is ugly after you made three or four good ones? I have as much fun skiing a blue trail as I do skiing a black trail although I ski the black trail a little slower and not as technically good looking. So at some point it does not matter if every movement is perfect just ENJOY what we do, SKI...The good skier is the one always trying to be the better skier
No it technically doesn't matter. In the end its only skiing and like most forms of recreation is just not important in life but is only a way of finding fun and enjoyment. So no it really doesn't matter much at all. Like you I can also very much enjoy blue runs and I do often. I can also ski with my wife (and through the years my kids) on them. Now they can go anywhere but still I enjoy blues. I like it all. I have different enjoyable feelings on steeper terrain and I enjoy that in a different way than the blues. And no one does really care how "good" or not anyone really is. We are there for fun and that's all that really needs to matter. With the exception of being unsafe of course.That may be true to a point, but at some point you are going to just want to go out and enjoy being on the mountain. Maybe we should not think about every movement as making us better skiers but think about the over all skiing experience. Does it really matter if one turn is ugly after you made three or four good ones? I have as much fun skiing a blue trail as I do skiing a black trail although I ski the black trail a little slower and not as technically good looking. So at some point it does not matter if every movement is perfect just ENJOY what we do, SKI...
That may be true to a point, but at some point you are going to just want to go out and enjoy being on the mountain. Maybe we should not think about every movement as making us better skiers but think about the over all skiing experience. Does it really matter if one turn is ugly after you made three or four good ones? I have as much fun skiing a blue trail as I do skiing a black trail although I ski the black trail a little slower and not as technically good looking. So at some point it does not matter if every movement is perfect just ENJOY what we do, SKI...
One can survive down a run without falling but that doesn't at all mean they are good at skiing. And good skiers can and do fall.
No it technically doesn't matter. In the end its only skiing and like most forms of recreation is just not important in life but is only a way of finding fun and enjoyment. So no it really doesn't matter much at all. Like you I can also very much enjoy blue runs and I do often. I can also ski with my wife (and through the years my kids) on them. Now they can go anywhere but still I enjoy blues. I like it all. I have different enjoyable feelings on steeper terrain and I enjoy that in a different way than the blues. And no one does really care how "good" or not anyone really is. We are there for fun and that's all that really needs to matter. With the exception of being unsafe of course.
That said , it all just depends on what one wants from skiing. Speaking of myself only, I find the desire to be a good technical and efficient skier something that motivates me. It something (within whatever level of ability one may think I am) that I always (relatively speaking) try to be each time I go. That's important "to me" when I ski. But that's because I find enjoyment in taking that approach. I find that it opens doors and brings a little bit more of an enjoyment level than I already have. That doesnt mean anyone else should have to do the same or feel the same. There is nothing that anyone is "suppose" to do that's truly right or wrong. There are no rules for that. There is no such thing as that. Its there if one wants it and wants to go about it that way. But that is all.
It can be suggested to people that if they were to increase their skiing efficiency that it can open doors and bring a different outlook to it and their enjoyment. But that doesn't make anyone right or wrong and that ideology cant be forced on anyone but only suggested. In the end we spend time and money on this recreation and as long the enjoyment is worthy of those spent resources no one really cares accept the person who choses to do whatever it is they do. That's all that truly matters.
Why is that so?
I mean in genral I never was much a bragger about things by nature. But what does that have to do with how good someone is?
That may be true to a point, but at some point you are going to just want to go out and enjoy being on the mountain. Maybe we should not think about every movement as making us better skiers but think about the over all skiing experience. Does it really matter if one turn is ugly after you made three or four good ones? I have as much fun skiing a blue trail as I do skiing a black trail although I ski the black trail a little slower and not as technically good looking. So at some point it does not matter if every movement is perfect just ENJOY what we do, SKI...
Yea but......I may for example say to myself after skiing a given run.. "hey, that was pretty darn good skiing there" and may even think it as its happening. Conversely I may say "that felt like crap". In the first one, Im sort of bragging to myself (or at least feeling happy or a bit proud). But in no way do I think I got it all beat. So weather you brag to your own self or out loud it doesn't at all have to mean you now think your above advice and improvement. Many the finest athletes in the world are braggers with huge egos and still many of those same people are always looking for more to learn and more improvement.Let me see If I can answer.....
It is about approaching life and everything as a beginner so that you are always in a position to learn. The person who considers themselves and "expert', a "master" is the person who has stopped taking a critical look at their efficiencies, and stopped taking the advice if those wiser than them. IME those who have practiced an endeavor (sports, medicine, music, business, etc) for five years think that they have it figured out. Those in their game for 10 years think that they have mastered it. Once you reach the 20 - 25 year mark, IMO, it is the place where practitioners realize that they have just started their journey.
For the record.... I in no way think that I am a good skier. I see things that I need to work on, and the list is long. I've also had the gift of rubbing elbows with the sport's best either as friends, coaches or athletes that I sponsored. I actively seek out advise of those wiser than me and clinic maybe 10 - 20 days a year. What I am however, is wise enough to know that I don't know everything, and to continue my journey of learning and mastery.
As I tell people - Enjoy The Journey.
Yea but......I may for example say to myself after skiing a given run.. "hey, that was pretty darn good skiing there" and may even think it as its happening. Conversely I may say "that felt like crap". In the first one, Im sort of bragging to myself (or at least feeling happy or a bit proud). But in no way do I think I got it all beat. So weather you brag to your own self or out loud it doesn't at all have to mean you now think your above advice and improvement. Many the finest athletes in the world are braggers with huge egos and still many of those same people are always looking for more to learn and more improvement.
I get your point well but its far too much of a generalization to say those who brag are not good. In fact sometimes it can also be those who don't brag and instead find themselves "above" bragging status who think they have reached a place of perfection when they really also havnt. There are braggers who fall well into your description. But there are also braggers who don't. Everyone is different.
yes think there are those who do. You see Imo, the idea itself of trying to make clean turns is a form of trying to improve. I think its the same thing. Trying to make great turns (or have great from I'll call it) is in a way practice that never stops. That in itself I would say is a goal towards improving whether you may realize it or not.Exactly, no one tries to make a bad turn and most everyone tries to make great clean turns but does everyone try and improve each run or turn? To me it's the very nature of being on skis as every turn on every run is a new experience to be enjoyed. Now if you make turns for a living the scenario changes a bit but the enjoyment factor still needs to be fed.
communicating via written text is not without its flaws for certain. But I think I have a good grasp on the gist of your posts in this thread.Agreed to all. I think we are limited by the format in which we are participating. Let's discuss over a beverage some time. Enjoy!
The good skier
is one who doesn't scare me
when I look up the hill,
and they're skiing toward me.
I completely agree with this one!
It takes about half a second to determine whether that moving object above me is something I need to be worried about.
This is true but to me becoming technically proficient opens up more of the mountain I can ski without fear. I can plan a trip west without worrying about the difference between an east coast blue and a west coast blue, I can get on a lift without worrying that the "easiest way down" won't be easy enough in a pinch. I don't enjoy feeling out of control skiing and the technical improvements I'm seeking give me that control and confidence.That may be true to a point, but at some point you are going to just want to go out and enjoy being on the mountain. Maybe we should not think about every movement as making us better skiers but think about the over all skiing experience. Does it really matter if one turn is ugly after you made three or four good ones? I have as much fun skiing a blue trail as I do skiing a black trail although I ski the black trail a little slower and not as technically good looking. So at some point it does not matter if every movement is perfect just ENJOY what we do, SKI...
Let me see If I can answer.....
It is about approaching life and everything as a beginner so that you are always in a position to learn. The person who considers themselves and "expert', a "master" is the person who has stopped taking a critical look at their efficiencies, and stopped taking the advice if those wiser than them. IME those who have practiced an endeavor (sports, medicine, music, business, etc) for five years think that they have it figured out. Those in their game for 10 years think that they have mastered it. Once you reach the 20 - 25 year mark, IMO, it is the place where practitioners realize that they have just started their journey.