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SSSdave

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I recall in the two winter months before the games reading stories about Pyeongchang relating how they were worrying about the climate history of low snowfall that seemed to be what was happening. And wondering what they were going to do?

When one looks at the helicopter shots of the Pyeongchang slopes where alpine events are being held, areas outside the ski runs are oddly either bare ground or obvious thin patched white areas of natural snow. Before the athletes arrived, the below link relates there was but an inch of natural snow on the slopes. Despite cold below freezing winter temperatures, their winter climate from continental Siberian atmospheric flows, is rather dry. Snow Makers Inc, a Michigan company supplied equipment to make the snow one sees on runs and has been doing so over several olympics. The snow making equipment and capacity to make man made snow at the resort is among the largest in the world.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/02/fake_snow_used_at_2018_winter.html

During the alpine ski races, Bodie has sometimes talked about the dense firm "chalky" nature of the snow that was giving some skiers trouble. In fact tonight in the Men's GS quite a few have skid out DNF. Conversely others like Mikaela thought the aggressive grippy snow conditions were superb for their own snow preferences. It occurs to me that the apparent frequent lack of natural winter snows in South Korea may also be a key reason why local Korean people have not had much interest in attending alpine events simply because they are not used to having adequate natural snow depths for skiing. Well at least until this recent decade when ski resorts have been built. Nor have children been used to playing in it in local areas where they live and have grown up. Conversely their keen interest in ice sports makes more sense.
 
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Thanks, we've been wondering about natural snow.
 

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The SMI guns used at the Olympics are mechanically similar to the Nubs guns and the Boyne guns.
SMI guns can have a much more sophisticated digital control system but they still ice up and require frequent attention.
Midwest skiers are intimately familiar with cold weather man made snow.
Its structure is more like balls of ice than snowflakes, it is quite dense yet not as interlocked as natural snow.
Much depends on how it is put down, the temperature and humidity and how long it has cured before being moved.
When it is right it is a fantastic groomed surface with a unique chalky feel.
Precision skiing on such a uniform surface is easier than natural snow but it has its limitations too.
Carved turn initiation becomes very easy on good, chalky artificial snow because it doesn't take much edge angle to hook up.
But it is prone to sudden blow out or loss of edge at large edge angles and it is also difficult to modulate the amount of edge slip.
Tuning skis for this surface at the Olympic level must present a unique challenge to ski techs.
I'll bet there are some interesting tunes being developed for this surface.
Not too sharp, not too angular but strong underfoot is my guess.
 

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That article seems to imply the guns are temporary. After the Olympics, is it going to continue to be a resort/race venue? Won't they need snowmaking in the future?
 

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