Now that Epicski is closed

Discussion in 'Community Announcements' started by David Chaus, May 12, 2017.

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  1. Eleeski

    Eleeski Out on the slopes Skier

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    I'm really dense. The link button is the thingy that looks like one "link" of a chain?

    Casey rocks

    Just testing. If it worked, that was Casey's first full pass in the course. If it doesn't link right, oops.

    And if it doesn't take more storage or site capacity, what is the issue with lots of long video links? I do often take just one frame looks to decide to watch.

    Eric
     
  2. Eleeski

    Eleeski Out on the slopes Skier

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    I guess it's oops. Maybe I need a tutorial. I'm going to go get a bite of brontosaurus now.

    I'm really old, my spell check doesn't even have brontosaurus.

    Eric
     
  3. blikkem

    blikkem Booting up Skier

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    Hey everyone,
    Wanted to throw in on Epic. While I've never really been one to be heavily involved or constantly checking in on any type of online communities. I do appreciate that they are there. I've gotten great advice and hours of entertainment when I need a fix in the middle of July and dreaming of snow. I love having the rich history of questions and answers that often times reflected my own with the flick of a couple of keyboard strokes in a search field. "Man this is great, others are asking the same question, I'm not the only weirdo!" I've done so with my home theater, car, repairs, headphones, etc. Any hobby any time, it's all there waiting for when we think of it. Being rid of that history does affect now and the future in a small way. That guy who is just started out or entering a new chapter of their ski life now has one less resource to help them. I don't completely agree with the good riddance attitude, because unless you have all the answers in your head you too will have a question that has already been answered in 45 different ways on Epic along with other places (but Epic does show up on searches a lot, often times in the exact way I phrased my question in my head), and don't forget the tangents that veer a thread to a completely different but no less important direction? That's always kind of funny to read and taught me that there are no quick answers on a forum. We should always celebrate new beginnings and look towards a bright future, but don't let the wisdom of the past to fall away, that to me is foolish.

    I think when people try to compare their feelings of the past with the excitement of the present and future is a bit limiting. I'm sure we are all capable of having positive/negative feelings about something that lives in our memories at the same time appreciate what's to come and setting up our present to get there. We don't need to choose, we can embrace both at the same time. From what I understand Epic transformed and to the disliking of some. Everything changes, maybe when Pugski becomes bigger those same elements will land here as well. Maybe the people here are better equipped, with experience and wisdom from their past, (see what I did there?) to handle it differently. Maybe we'll all learn you can't stop things from deteriorate over time with the increase in size when it comes to online communities because it is just too easy to troll and be negative and there are a lot more miserable people out there then happy ones. I don't know. I'm certainly glad it happened, the good and bad that existed there enriched my life.
     
  4. oldschoolskier

    oldschoolskier Getting off the lift Skier

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    I joined Pugski after Epic started changed several years after joining. I still followed and posted on Epic as some topics still interested me (including some of the posters).

    Pugski though has the fun feel and sharing the enjoyment of skiing with friends we know in person and those that we only know by means of the internet (and wish to meet in person) that I initially enjoyed on Epic.

    This is due to Pugski founders and them holding it that way. It shows one thing the members that have a positive influence are what drive a site.
     
  5. David Chaus

    David Chaus formerly known as DesiredUsername Skier

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    "The past is history,
    The future is mystery.
    And the present? It's a gift.
    that's why we call it The Present."

    -Babatunde Olantunji
     
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  6. Monique

    Monique bounceswoosh Skier

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    You're right, but search engines will quickly realize that epicski links are all dead, and the questions will appear here, and people will chime in, and eventually the whole thing will be self-healing. It won't be exactly the same info, but it will be useful info, and it may even be more relevant - ski tech has changed a good bit since epicski was founded.
     
  7. James

    James Out on the slopes Instructor

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    There's no need to be online on a ski site. Embedding a video makes the reference relevant to the thread and you know what you're looking at. A link you don't know until you get there. It's the difference between an address witha picture of the house and just an address. Whether you decide to go to the house is up to you.

    So what's a library?
    I get you joined epic in 2011. By that time it had been around for 12 years. Over that time and after some people spent actual effort to post quality information that is still relevant today. Perhaps you didn't. Yeah there's a lot of noise but that happens anywhere including here.

    Some of the info posted is entirely relevant in the present, some perhaps of value to illustrate the change in thought or equipment, and some is useful as reference material now.

    As an example, someone just posted a request for trail maps because their 8 year old son is interested in making maps. We have had discussions on epic of Jim Niehaus who has painted many of the maps we use, and we've had discussions of the Breck abstract trail map in the style of Massimo Vignelli or done by him. One can't go and find the info now- for present use by a child, because we've lost access to it.
    So your philosophy quote doesn't really work here, does it?
     
  8. Monique

    Monique bounceswoosh Skier

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    Okay, here's a relevant quote:

    God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
    Courage to change the things I can,
    And wisdom to know the difference.


    Epic is gone. Arguing about whether it is irreplaceable just raises blood pressure. It won't change facts.
     
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  9. at_nyc

    at_nyc Putting on skis Skier

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    Your house had burned down. You lost some stuff but thank god you are all safe and sound.

    You and your family is living in the trailer while the new house is being build.

    Your teenage son is moaning about having to share bathroom with his sister. You remind him the old house is no more. No point wishing it's still there. The new house will be finished in due course.

    Your husband chime in and say he never like the old house anyway, and go on to list all the things he dislike about that house, including all the clutter in there that's now all gone.

    When the new house is done, your son wants to stay in the trailer because he didn't want to listen to his grumpy old man.
     
  10. James

    James Out on the slopes Instructor

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  11. nemesis256

    nemesis256 Putting on skis Skier

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    I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet. EpicSki is still showing up in Google searches. What's annoying is that the cached page google has returns a 404.
     
  12. Monique

    Monique bounceswoosh Skier

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    Perhaps they have a grace period in case a site has a temporary outage. (My phone's suggestion for the word after "temporary" was "restraining" - yikes! )
     
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  13. David Chaus

    David Chaus formerly known as DesiredUsername Skier

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    James, at no point have I said that a library, or history, or more specifically the history of Epicski, is irrelevant. The Olatunji quote is about appreciating what we have and what we are doing. That is all I intended to state, and what I intended when I started this thread. One can do that, and still be sad about the loss of something valuable.
     
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  14. Bogatyr

    Bogatyr Booting up Skier

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    I don't know if it is replaceable or irreplaceable, but I know that coming november thousands of intermediate skiers will feel the lack of support they were getting from this site.I think that Epic ski was the paradise of the intermediate skier- resort and travel guides and information, long and informative ski equipment threads (promoting mainly intermediate gear), the '' intermediate zone '' platform run by SMJ ( I never visited this section , my bad) and so on and so on.Many skiers will miss all this and yes it may be irreplaceable for them I don't know. Now , if you were a former racer or an expert BC skier you probably found the greater part of Epic a little boring , but for anyone else it was an usefull and informative platform.
     
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  15. ScotsSkier

    ScotsSkier USSA Coach Pugski Ski Tester Industry Insider

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    I think you are on the right track with what it had devolved into - interesting however how all these thousands of intermediates didn't represent any revenue to the site...:rolleyes:
     
  16. Bogatyr

    Bogatyr Booting up Skier

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    I don't know why they were unable to turn this into a revenue to the site.Tylor explained some stuff in one of the final threads there, but I'm not a specialist in this..The fact is however they had 1500-2000 guests at any given moment (not counting the members online)
     
  17. Tricia

    Tricia The Velvet Hammer Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    Many were invested in Epic as much as Phil and I but no one was more invested. With the changes that MNC was making over the past few years the shut down of the site didn't really shock us, but it did send us into another moment of remembrance and sadness.
    I get the sadness of loss of content that was built over 18 years, after all I helped build that content over a 10 year period of time.
    Still....As @Monique said, we came to a point of accepting the things we couldn't change and we are glad that Pugski had some legs before the epic series finale.

    RE: Intermediate Skiers
    The comments about intermediates not feeling welcome at Pugski baffles me. There is no other publication that I know of who has intermediate ski testers to give feedback from an advancing intermediate perspective. Pugski.com does that.

    Individual Review Thumbnail Reviews: An Intermediate Female Skier Checks Out 2018 Skis
    Comparison Review Demo thoughts from an intermediate
    Comparison Review Thumbnail Reviews: An Intermediate Skier Checks Out 2017 Skis

    We also have a forum area; New to Skiing?

    So, while we're mourning the loss of an amazing library of content, lets not forget that we are stewards to curate this new library.
     
  18. Philpug

    Philpug The Ski'er Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    If you never visited the section, how would you know if it was a paradise? Ask @Mendieta and @Started at 53, a couple of intermediates who have posted that they were immediately accepted here. Please point to another member who had issues.
     
  19. Started at 53

    Started at 53 You can call me Jay Skier

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    As @Philpug stated, I have felt welcome from my very first post. I have asked lots of newbie questions, some that I'm sure illicitly some eye-rolls, but EVERY response I have received has been courteous and helpful.

    I feel a part of the site already.
     
  20. Mendieta

    Mendieta Master of Snowplow Moderator

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    We discussed adding an intermediate section but concluded that it would fragment our audience and content, unnecessarily. Besides, the line is not very clear between beginner and intermediate, or intermediate and advanced, etc. I'm a sucker on skis, and have no issues reading, learning and contributing content, as it is. Of course, I am not MA'ing people or giving "expert" suggestions :)

    There is a lot of intermediate content. I just ran a google search and found so many threads

    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/th...-an-intermediate-skiers-first-gathering.1323/
    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/th...istler-blackcomb-an-intermediate-report.4449/
    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/squawlpine-for-an-intermediate.4236/
    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/boot-to-get-a-lower-level-woman-skier-to-intermediate-level.4107/
    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/intermediate-to-expert.3944/
    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/help-wanted-advice-on-buying-skis-for-my-daughter.3466/
    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/head-absolute-joy-demo-loved-it.4264/
    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/mens-intermediate-all-mountain-ski-suggestions.3837/
    https://forum.pugski.com/threads/womens-intermediate-ski-suggestions.3834/

    Ok, time for

    :wine:

    My doctor says I am an advanced ... alcoholic! :roflmao:
     
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