Mammoth is a an awesome wax lab *right now*

[cantunamunch]

Let's say you have a setup that is good in slush. You have good structure, you have speedy wax that's been brushed like crazy.

Guess what? You're *still* going to stick in the the day old fine cement fresh snow at the top.

Some observations : no wax at all sticks everywhere except for the groomers at the top. High speeds are literally dangerous because you will endo.

LF10 runs great at the bottom, better than One Ball Jay. High speeds possible - low on the mountain only. Very definite sticking in fresh up top, workable on cat tracks and skied out access paths.

Dominator Renew G with Butter - superb low down on the mountain. Awesome even. Beyond the top of lift 6 the skis are unusable except for doing really really slow 11s.

 

[ScotsSkier]

Try LF8 mixed with a little Alpha or LF10

 

[Jacques]

Dude, FX11 with FG77. Seems hard, but try it. With the fresh it's good.

 

[cantunamunch]

Yep I am totally going with hard HF today, Toko and Briko /Maplus. Stuff air temp ranges- it's all about how aggressive the crystals are.

 

[cantunamunch]

Everything is running well today. One thing that is notably unexpected - Briko universal fluoro liquid is showing serious longevity.

 

[BGreen]

If you are playing with wax, in spring conditions I've had some luck with a slightly hard, fluoridated wax. The fluoro seems to keep things moving in the sticky sloppy while the wax with hardness matched to the more aggressive crystals keeps things moving at the top. It's not a perfect solution and I have no experience with Maplus though people seem to like it. Toko HF or LF DLC mixed with Alpha, Beta, LF7 or LF 8 work well. Also I've had good luck with GW-25 with Alpha or Beta. I should point out that my wax decisions are not based on what's best, but rather what's on hand.

 

[cantunamunch]

Toko HF Blue is the clear winner today.

 

[ScotsSkier]

Toko HF Blue is the clear winner today.

Whoa!!! Not totally surprised though, i have found that the Holmenkol equivalent, Ultra, works a lot higher up the rem range than stated! I also have a Holmenkol wax chart that shows a mix of Ultra and alpha (yellow) in these conditions!!!

 

[BGreen]

I also have a Holmenkol wax chart that shows a mix of Ultra and alpha (yellow) in these conditions!!!

Ultra/alpha is a good combo for spring slaloms when you have hard and warm snow. I think the ultra helps in the salted snow, but I don't know enough about the chemistry to know why it works. I suspect this is just a cheap alternative to a HF blue.

 

[ScotsSkier]

Ultra/alpha is a good combo for spring slaloms when you have hard and warm snow. I think the ultra helps in the salted snow, but I don't know enough about the chemistry to know why it works. I suspect this is just a cheap alternative to a HF blue.

Cheap?
I knew there was a reason I liked it...